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Mark Curnutte started covering the Bengals and the NFL for The Enquirer in 2000. He previously wrote about urban affairs and other social issues for the Enquirer. He won the prestigious 1994 Unity Award from Lincoln University (Missouri) for "A Polite Silence," a seven-day series about race relations in Greater Cincinnati. He also has worked as an assistant features editor and features writer at The News & Observer in Raleigh, N.C. Curnutte is second vice president and a three-year board member of the Professional Football Writers of America (PFWA). He is a 1984 Miami University graduate.

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Monday, March 03, 2008

Odom agrees with Bengals

After near misses on trades for defensive tackles Shaun Rogers and Dewayne Robertson, the Bengals are finalizing a deal at this hour with free agent defensive end Antwan Odom, who had eight sacks last season for Tennessee.

Odom canceled a trip to Minnesota to visit the Vikings today, according to the St. Paul Pioneer-Press.

The terms of the deal are five years, $29.5 million, with $11.5 million in guaranteed money.


39 Comments:

at 3/03/2008 6:59 PM Anonymous Anonymous said...

I think we will wait for the press conference. Not that you haven't been doing a great job with your updates but its been a rough few days.

 
at 3/03/2008 7:05 PM Anonymous Anonymous said...

Does anyone think he will be any better or get anymore pressure on the QB than Justin did? ANSWER IS NO NO NO. We can't get a good DT to penetrate, so that leaves double team help for the ends. This guy Odom must not be in demand or he hasn't watched T.V very much if he is willing to sign here. Cincy better get Ellis or move up and get Long if they want any kind of difference next year.

 
at 3/03/2008 7:07 PM Anonymous Anonymous said...

it will be canceled in 1 hour.. as the Bengals will find another way to screw that up as well!!

 
at 3/03/2008 7:07 PM Anonymous Anonymous said...

Where have I heard this before???

 
at 3/03/2008 7:20 PM Anonymous Anonymous said...

This just in...Odom's deal falls through due to the Bengals' front offices inability to find a pen for the signatures.

 
at 3/03/2008 7:22 PM Anonymous Anonymous said...

I heard they have signed Odom, but decided to trade his rights to Cleveland for Derek Anderson and a 7th round pick. Marvin Lewis said, "This kid is going to be the future of the franchise. We figure it's better to have 2 good QB's than a defense. And if all else fails, Derek Anderson has learned to tackle better." Seriously though, the Bengals are the most inept franchise in the history of ANY Sport.

 
at 3/03/2008 7:30 PM Blogger mentalmidget said...

Sure!!! I'll wake up in the morning and hear THAT deal fell through!! Then I'll hear that our Bengals front office is talking with Dexter Manley about coming out of retirement!!!!

 
at 3/03/2008 7:36 PM Anonymous Anonymous said...

There are some bitter, bitter people in bengaldom. I have been through the 12 seasons of losing and even the superbowl loss to the 49ers. I totally trust Marvin in what he is doing, and believe in the bengals. Sounds like a lot of our fans are haters until they start winning and then they are big bengal fans. Stay TRUE to your team!

 
at 3/03/2008 7:37 PM Anonymous Anonymous said...

I love all of the enthusiasm that you guys show for bashing on the Bengals.Are you fans or not?I am very happy to see us get a DE who according to the sporting news was the number1 DE free agent this year,yes above Justin Smith.I love the fire but dont bash the team for trying.

 
at 3/03/2008 7:42 PM Anonymous Anonymous said...

I dont care if he does the same as Justin! He will do it at a lower cost.

 
at 3/03/2008 7:42 PM Blogger mentalmidget said...

After this latest failure involving Robertson, this just shows NO ONE with any talent wants to be a Bengal!! Our Cincinnati Bengals are still the NFL Siberia!! Carson, demand a trade!! If you dont, you'll be put in the same class as Archie Manning. Darn good quarterback on a terrible team!! 2005 season?? Lightning strikes every once in a while, or is it every 16 years? I hate to look at it this way but jeez, Mike Brown and family are an embarressment to the fans, the city, the NFL!!

 
at 3/03/2008 7:50 PM Anonymous Anonymous said...

it will be interesting to see if Odom can achieve the same level of sacks without the presence of someone like Haynesworth.

 
at 3/03/2008 8:19 PM Blogger mentalmidget said...

Hey 7:36!! Did you say 12 losing seasons? Try 16 out of the last 17!!!
I've been a fan since 1971. A hater? No one wants to see them win more than me!! The Brown family needs to bring the way they do business into the 21st century! For some reason, Mike Brown thinks he is a football man because his father was!! HE IS INEPT!! Any other GM would be fired before losing 16 out of 17 seasons!! But since daddy left him the team, this city and fans suffer for it!! He is a stubborn old man who wants to do it his way and THAT is nothing but losing!! He is afraid of change and creativity!!!

 
at 3/03/2008 8:21 PM Anonymous Anonymous said...

It will be interesting to see if Odom can come here and represent and commit a felony in his first month. Maybe crack poesession or something, he has to earn his keep.

 
at 3/03/2008 8:24 PM Anonymous Anonymous said...

This is a slap in the face to Bengals fans. Odom has never had more than 31 tackels in a season. His 8 sacks last year give a career total of 12.5 in 4 years. How does it make sense to save $1.5 million a year to sign him as oppossed to having Justin Smith? One more reason the Bengals will remain losers in 2008.
Also keep in mind his 8 sacks came with Albert Haynesworth being double teamed in the middle on every play.

 
at 3/03/2008 8:40 PM Anonymous Anonymous said...

Cincy's looking to replace DE Smith and looks to have done so. This allows them to concentrate on other positions and gets them off the bubble so to speak and will get other players interested signing either with Cincy or another team.

I fully expect that they will take a DT in the draft unless they sign one before the draft in which case they will likely pick either a LB or an OC in the first round.

 
at 3/03/2008 8:42 PM Anonymous Anonymous said...

8:24 you stole my exact thoughts. Look, this kid seems like a solid player but any DL in the NFL would benefit from having Albert Haynesworth next to them. Justin Smith is a better player than this kid. That is a FACT. We lose out on 2 potential pro-bowlers and settle by over-paying this 'solid' player.

Honestly, how bad will this defense be next season. I am dreading our two matchups with Cleveland. I never thought I would say that.

 
at 3/03/2008 8:43 PM Anonymous Anonymous said...

824, he missed 12 games in 2006 yet still found a way to match smith's sack total for the last two years.

 
at 3/03/2008 8:54 PM Blogger Captain Science said...

Signing Odom is good but, it's not going to matter if we don't get a big DT to command a double team. One of the reasons Smith didn't get more then 2 sack last year was because the DT's were getting pushed around and the OL only had to worry about him. We MUST have a GOOD DEFENSIVE TACKLE to have a positive impact from last years underachievements. Big Sam Adams didn't put up Big numbers, but that was because he commanded a double team, which allowed Smith or Geathers to be man to man.

 
at 3/03/2008 8:57 PM Anonymous Anonymous said...

Now go buy your Bengals merchandise and season tix and root root root for the home team. While Mike Brown sits in his private booth and laughs at all the fans(morons). Your sideshow is more interesting to Mikey than winning a football game.

 
at 3/03/2008 8:59 PM Anonymous Anonymous said...

Statistical Reality - Odom had 21 tackles last year as a starter. Those are Sam Adams 30 pounds overweight numbers. I want to be positive, it's just impossible. As Mike Brown said after the season concerning the scouting department, it is as good as anyones just look at the results. Apparently there are results I'm missing because he cannot mean victories or player performance.

 
at 3/03/2008 9:13 PM Anonymous Anonymous said...

i can not believe the fans that do nothing but complain we have a bunch of draft picks all the injurys the bengals had the past two seasons is not the brown familys fault or marvin lewis fault stop being so negitive it is turning around just be thankful we are not selling out the future like the browns are doing

 
at 3/03/2008 9:19 PM Anonymous Anonymous said...

firefly118 why would we get Chris long if we need DT DT DT?

 
at 3/03/2008 9:30 PM Anonymous Anonymous said...

Remember - If the Jets can not trade Robertson he will be a free agent in June when he is cut. The Bengals wanted to extend his cap number over a longer term than 2 years and didn't want him to have 2 good years and then walk. I don't like what I am seeing and, after the Rogers situation, am pretty pessimistic about the Bengals. However, if Robertson didn't want to renegotiate (extend) his contract, he wasn't a good fit. We'll see what happens going forward. We might get him for cheaper in June.

 
at 3/03/2008 9:36 PM Blogger TeacherScribe said...

Odom is a good fit. Hopefully, we'll still be able to add a quality DT soon. Smith is overrated. What did he make last year? Two million per sack? Odom is an upgrade. Who cares about M. Williams? Did either of those two guys improve a horrible defense? It's at least a positive sign that the Bengals are actually being proactive and trying to improve the defense.

Besides, just look at the high impact free agents New York, Green Bay, Pittsburgh, and Indianapolis added last year: None. They drafted well and kept their own stars. So far the Bengals haven't done a great job of the former but they have started to keep some of their better players - and there was no way Smith or Williams were in that category.

The Jets and Browns can add all the millions of dollars in free agents they want, they'll still both be average next year. Look at what spending madly on free agents has done for Washington over the past several years.

 
at 3/03/2008 9:43 PM Anonymous Anonymous said...

Dont get me wrong i love my Bengals...but is anyone else done with marvin??? He was a guy to bring us out of the dirt but i dont think he's the guy to get us a ring..anyone comment please

 
at 3/03/2008 9:55 PM Anonymous Anonymous said...

selling out the future like the browns are doing? the browns have a young team that's coming together--so what if they have a weak draft this year? i wish our owner would have made a play when we were coming off a winning season instead of allowing the bengals to become doormats again. with all the culture issues on this team and a coach who has no control over his players, indeed: who wants to come here and play now?

 
at 3/03/2008 10:08 PM Blogger tym2chng said...

Odom was rated as the #1 DE free agent available this season (higher than J.Smith and for much less money). He's 26 years old and he is a family man. Rogers has character issues and it looks like we may have lucked out. The Bengals still have all of their draft picks intact with a bevy of talented D-Lineman available early in the draft. The seriousness with which the Bengals pursued Odom should give fans some hope that defense is a priority. Couple that with a healty and deep O-line and next year could be much brighter. Stay positive Nati...let's stick together and believe in the Who Dey!!!

 
at 3/03/2008 10:29 PM Blogger bodacio said...

A good measure of the magnitude of this signing: It's not mentioned anywhere on ESPN.com. To be fair, with really big happenings like David Patten re-signing with the Saints it's easy to see why Odom was overshadowed.

7:36, 7:37, 9:13...you do realize you're defending the most inept, poorly run franchise in the history of the NFL, right? And you do realize you're criticizing those who upset by this fact, right? See any error in your logic? Probably not.

 
at 3/03/2008 10:29 PM Anonymous Anonymous said...

HEY ANON 7:42

Is your last name Brown, because what you said is exactly the point!! Quote "I don't care if he does the same as Justin. He will do it at a lower cost" Exactly what Mike Brown was thinking. Save that money at the cost of winning.

I am glad Justin moved on, and I hope Odom proves me wrong with 15 sacks, 4 INT, 28 hurries, 75 tackles, and a couple DUI's (just kidding, bad joke) but in reality, he is cheaper than what it would have cost for Justin, and what it would have cost to redo a deal for Robertson. CHEAPER IS THE KEY WORD!

The same reason they won't move up in the draft to get a difference maker on the D-Line, it would cost them more....

 
at 3/03/2008 10:59 PM Anonymous Anonymous said...

At least Cleveland is getting something for their draft picks... 1st 8 games of '07, the Bengals did not have their 1st, 2nd, or 3rd round pick on the field from the '05 draft. Of (6) 2nd round picks during the Marvin Era, only 2, Irons (injured) and Whit on the roster. The Bengals don't build through the draft, they fail from it. Only 5 starters on D were actually drafted by the Bengals.

 
at 3/03/2008 11:37 PM Anonymous Anonymous said...

Odom replaces Smith's (what was it?) $45mil with his $30mil and otherwise it's samo-samo. Looks like the Brown family just saved $15mil...that they most likely won't spend on the franchise because...Odom's upfront money. Look's like Mike just got his Draft Money and he still gets to stay well under the cap. Guess "Next Year" is still the deal.
Granted, I'm not including the years of the deal but still.

 
at 3/03/2008 11:48 PM Anonymous Anonymous said...

Keep wasting your time and money on the Bengals, they are destined for another .500 year.

 
at 3/03/2008 11:57 PM Anonymous Anonymous said...

I'm waiting for a press conference until I believe it. Odom will be better than Justin Smith,though. Now, go out and get a good DT with the first pick, move up for a DE prospect like Campbell or Groves in the second round. Maybe a 3rd round TE, and some more depth on the defense, w/ another CB or safety in the fourth. Have to get a good DT w/ the first pick though. Odom is a start.

 
at 3/04/2008 12:03 AM Blogger Ankur Varma said...

Ditto TeacherScribe.

 
at 3/04/2008 8:02 AM Anonymous Anonymous said...

I am glad we cut of talks with Robertson! I would not pay that guy 9.5 and 8.9 mill for the next 2 yrs! I like this move but we will have to see if he was getting those sacks due to his talent or due to the fact that Haynesworth" who by the way I would trade a 1st and 3rd pick for, DT's like him come around once a decade!!" and the DE comanded constant double teams

 
at 3/04/2008 8:57 AM Anonymous Anonymous said...

Justin is the most over paid DE in the NFL. He has been too slow from the beginning. He has what everyone calls "manufactured speed" meaning that he has trained enough that he has OK times in 40 yard dashes but the first 2 steps he is slower than the average DE. He may try hard and gets the "high motor" tag, but that's not worth the money.
However with the inability to get a DT plug. And now having a 270 lbs and 265 lbs Defensive Ends, does anyone think we are moving to the 3-4? Our DE are too light and if anyone says to move them to linebacker let me tell you know it doesn't work. Just because a guy has good DE speed doesn't mean he has good LB speed.

 
at 3/04/2008 9:05 AM Blogger SportsMania said...

For everyone that wants to rip the Bengals front office, they finally made a decent move.
Antwan Odom is younger than Justin Smith and he will likely put up the same type of numbers, if not better. Plus Justin signed for 6 year and $45 million, we got Odom for 5 and $29.5 million.
I still think we need to get a solid DT though.

 
at 3/04/2008 9:48 AM Anonymous Anonymous said...

While we still need a stud DT (that we'll never get, and no, Robertson wasn't the answer there, although Rogers might have been), Odom is at least as good as Smith, and appears to be improving, while Smith has leveled off, and may even be regressing. The guy is younger, cheaper, signed for fewer years, and on the upswing. We know what we had with Smith, and it wasn't much.

 
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