Bengals: Interesting stat on Monday morning

Monday, September 24, 2007

Interesting stat on Monday morning

In looking through the Bengals guide to check the series history and score of the New England game last year -- a 38-13 Cincinnati loss -- the Bengals are now 6-10 in that 16-game stretch that starts with the loss to the Patriots.

It came on Oct. 1 last year at home. The Bengals will play the Patriots again this year on Oct. 1, next Monday night, at home.

In the 16 games, the Bengals have outscored their opponents 381-379.

33 Comments:

at 9/24/2007 8:40 AM

wiseking said...

Thanks Mark. From all the feedback on this site and on the club's official web page, there's no belief that the Bengals can turn the Patriots over. It hasn't been as black as this until Kansas City came to town with all they hype and undefeated record and left with a loss. New England are still only the pretenders to the crown - the Bengals don't need much more motivation than this. 2-and-2 into the bye would still give Cincy a fighting chance, no?

at 9/24/2007 8:44 AM

wiseking said...

Never mind about Chuck Bresnahan, is Darrin Simmons on the hotseat as special teams binned last season down the stretch and it was the same story in each of the first three games this season?

at 9/24/2007 8:48 AM

Anonymous said...

What did I tell everyone last week before the defense blew another one. What a joke this team is: Marvin, Carson, Chad, Deltha, Shayne Graham Cracker, JJ, Geather. A bunch of overpaid crybabies who couldn't finish a meal if they were starving.

Thank God for UC since the Bengals stink....who wants my COA?

at 9/24/2007 9:06 AM

Anonymous said...

Why is Chuck still calling the defense & Marvin better watch out because if he can't get the Bengals to turn the corner than we need to get a true leader that can.

at 9/24/2007 9:27 AM

Anonymous said...

And the UC Bearcats are something like 11-2 during that same period dating back to last year.

at 9/24/2007 10:20 AM

Unknown said...

Time to fire Bresnahan-let's find out if the Lewis we have is the defensive
guru he is purported to be. How about trading Chad for a true frontline defensive player such as Hawk or Merriman. I said it 15 years ago that as long as Mikey Brown was running the show that the Bungals would never
be winners. They will continue to be subpar and below average.PB knew football and players MB can only count money

at 9/24/2007 10:45 AM

Anonymous said...

Interesting stat...Thanks for digging it up...It only takes a little common sense to figure out how you go 6-10 while outscoring the opponent...Too many mistakes maybe?...I'll bet Marvin is the only one that understands.

at 9/24/2007 10:48 AM

Anonymous said...

Mark no need to ask about the 2 point conversion. Based on last weeks' press conference we would not understand the reason anyway. Just ask Marvin.

Robert Young

at 9/24/2007 12:28 PM

Anonymous said...

I want Marty Schottenheimer to coach my favorite team. He knows what to do with talent. Look at San Diego. They are the Bengals without him. I'm tired of being the Bengals I want to be a winner for once. I'm 30 and the only good season I can remember was like the 88 Superbowl season or something like that. I like Marvin to death but he aint getting it done and and no one person is above the team. You have to do what is best for the team.

Big Nate-Dawg from the DYT

at 9/24/2007 12:42 PM

Anonymous said...

And the Patriots have scored 38 points in each of their first 3 games this season. Would you forecast 38 again this season?

at 9/24/2007 12:58 PM

Anonymous said...

At least we have one winning football team in town!!! GO 'CATS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

at 9/24/2007 1:21 PM

Anonymous said...

Time for 'Melvin' to move on. Seems he is the one that is too stupid to understand.

at 9/24/2007 1:29 PM

Tom Turner said...

Would someone please tell me why Lewis went for the two point conversion? If he would have kicked the extra point the Bengals would have need a field goal TO WIN NOT TIE!

I know the fumble makes this a mute point but it was BAD COACHING...it also took away momentum and gave it back to Seattle!!!

Tom Turner
Phoenix, AZ.

at 9/24/2007 2:11 PM

Anonymous said...

Is Shayne Graham still hurting? The kickoff out of bounds, when SEA got the ball on 40, in one thing..

---but the poor kickoff coverage on ST...if Shayne is not booming the kicks up in the air enough, then our coverage isn't getting down there and setup in time...its all connected.

at 9/24/2007 2:13 PM

Anonymous said...

Mark, I'd be interested to know your thoughts about Marvin Lewis. I personally believe that he's the best chance in the near future for the Bengals and that he has the capability to continue towards the goal of making this team a legitimate Super Bowl contender, despite his cool relationship with the media. It seems to me that fans have too short of a memory.

at 9/24/2007 2:20 PM

Anonymous said...

Special teams cost us the final two games of last season, special teams killed us against Baltimore, killed us against Cleveland, and killed us again against Seattle....

Graham has killed us since game 12 last year. Time to move on, there are too many guys without jobs that can keep kickoffs inbounds with the game on the line, and not hook game winning field goal attempts....

I have lost all confidence in Marvin Lewis, both as a coach, and as a personnel man. He has consistently been out game planned since day one, add to that the inability to switch things on the fly to overcome what the other team is doing, and you have a squad that is 1-5 in their last 6 games.

I'm tired of seeing that face staring blankly on those crutches. But, what do fans know?

at 9/24/2007 2:58 PM

Anonymous said...

Hey...wait a second. The season is not lost. We were very close to winning inspite of a bunch of dumb things happening. On the road in Seattle and the offense looked great. One of my questions..is something wrong with Rudi...he looked like was on running in place. Kenny Watson came in and made some important yards...i'm not sure what is going on there. We will beat New England Monday night.
George in Z-ville

at 9/24/2007 3:05 PM

Anonymous said...

Schottenheimer? Someone reminded me he only gets teams to the playoffs where they always lose. Sounds like heaven compared to the present. The day Schottenheimer became available, I would have fired Marvin and install Marty who knows how to build teams toward success. Bresnahan and Lewis should be gone. Neither has accomplished anything. And why does Palmer put only enough points on the board to lose by a little? It's a measurement I don't like.

at 9/24/2007 3:16 PM

Anonymous said...

Insted of warching my favorite team from home I took the challenge from a Hawk fan and flew 770 miles from California to see this game in person. And what did I get for the hundreds of dollars I spent? I got to see Marvin Lewis look completely inept, sometimes standing alone some 20 yards away from the line of scrimmage watching the game. If he wanted a different view come up in the stands with me and he would have seen mistakes gallore from up there. The lanes were huge on that opening kickoff which demoralizes the team right out of the gate. We had our DBs getting burnt on double move routes (again). If our DBs can't hang one on one why do they never get any help over the top? On offense we had Palmer trying force balls into double and triple coverage to the big guys while the third receiver was open one on one. They insisted on running the ball to the outside for three quarters when it was obviouse the Hawk defense was quick enough to contain Rudi. I don't know why Willie played since they didn't try to run the ball to his side all game. Give credit to the run defense as they did well for most of the game only to have the secondary give up third and long plays. I said it last week and I'll say it again Marvin's time is up. The team is under performing again and you wonder if the players are losing thier confidence in him. They ask the players to play football injured yet they have to watch a bewildered looking Lewis hobble around on crutches as he supposedly leads them into battle. Bring in Schottenheimer. Big props to all the Bengals fans that showed in force in enamy territory.

at 9/24/2007 3:44 PM

Anonymous said...

Last six regular season games, ONE win. Sad but true. The defense lacks speed at the LB & DL positions.

at 9/24/2007 4:14 PM

Anonymous said...

Why are you all talking about the Bearcats? Everyone knows Ohio State is where it's at.

My bedroom is bigger than Nippert Stadium.

at 9/24/2007 5:50 PM

Anonymous said...

New England Rules. They are going to kick our tails. We have no chance. Bill has video tape of us from last year....what are we going to do....heeeelllp!

at 9/24/2007 6:36 PM

Anonymous said...

Mark your stat PROVES what I have been saying. That Marvin Lewis makes poor coaching decisions at critical points in games. Look up his winning % against winning teams outside division. I think it's like 1-10 or something horrendous like that. Seriously look it up. His 2 pt decision is alot like Tampa game last year. He did not call TO's to give offense time to get down field within reasonable FG range. His comment was he thought defense win game. Just like he thought defense hold Seattle to last sec TD. Possibly blocking extra PT at end of game. What's Marvin thinking he has? the Ravens Defense? NFL replay on NFL network showed Madieu Williams blew that coverage on winning TD. Coaching suppose to put players in right spots. Fans be alot more patient with defense if new co-ordinator was in place. I live in Indy and Coltd defense is soo much better with Bob Sanders. Look at every good NFL defense and they have a good Strong Safety. David Fulcher anyone? Bengals cb's be okay. Talented but inexperienced. Bengals need a top SS. This team is going nowhere this year. Everytime marvin blunders in a game. Teams confidence in him sinks a lil lower. If Bengals continue losing watch Palmer's Interceptions rise as he starts pressing. I think you saw a little of that Sunday. Who can blame him with that defense. I saw same thing in 2001 with Colts Manning and not coincidentally Jim Mora's last season. With palmer at QB. A good NFL coach will be willing to take on Bengals. even with limitations installed by Mike Brown.

at 9/24/2007 6:47 PM

Grizzlyfox said...

Chad Jonhnson's on pace to have the greatest single receiving season ever but the lack of D at times and the lack of special team play at all times could stop him from getting the MVP. If they manage to take a win this week(highly possible, trap game for Pats and just too many skilled players on the Bengals to keep losing), they can hit the bye 2-2 and try to get some guys healthy. And where is Edgerton Hartwell? Was he really that bad?

at 9/24/2007 7:09 PM

Anonymous said...

The Bengals have got to make some tough decisions. I'll make it easy for them:

(1) Just give Kenny (Watson) the damn ball!!!

(2) Play press man-to-man coverage inside the 25 yard line and lose the cover-2 since some guys (i.e., Jonathan Joseph and Mdieu Williams) don't have a clue how to play it.

(3) Let Ocho Cinco and/or T.J. HoushMANzadeh return punts AND kickoffs. The return game may not get better but you know one thing -- these guys would NEVER fumble away an opportunity to win the game.

(4) Throw at least 2 slant routes every quarter to Ocho or T.J. and give them a chance to take it to the house.

(5) Trade or release Rudi Johnson. He's old and slow and we all know he ain't gonna glow.

(6) Sign a new kicker. How many more games are we gonna let Graham cost this team?

at 9/24/2007 7:30 PM

Anonymous said...

Please Please turn the corner,It is becoming more and more difficult to wear my Bengals cap and tee shirt on my Harley on Sundays here in Sarasota Florida,I hate the Bucs and their little field general"Chucky".

at 9/24/2007 10:59 PM

Anonymous said...

Fundamentally, the Bengals are losing games at the line of scrimmage. They have lost the ability to consistently run the ball and teams that are pass happy become soft. Running keeps the other team off the field, gives your defense plenty of rest, and makes the other team's offense lose its rhythm.

The Bengals offensive line is not functioning well, perhaps since Rich Braham got hurt.

On the defensive side, whether the line can play better is an unknown. The defensive play calling is consistently conservative, rarely rushing more than 3 or 4 on long 3rd downs. Therefore the conversion rate on 3rd downs, especially long ones, for the opponents is excellent.

The Bengals defense isn't good enough to play such a vanilla package. It might have worked when Marvin had Ray Lewis in Baltimore, but the Bengals have no Ray Lewis.

Marvin seems to have lost his intensity about winning and losing. Perhaps the good life has intervened.

at 9/25/2007 1:19 AM

Anonymous said...

A Day in the Life of Joe Republican

Joe gets up at 6 a.m. and fills his coffeepot with water to prepare his morning coffee. The water is clean and good because some tree-hugging liberal fought for minimum water-quality standards. With his first swallow of coffee, he takes his daily medication. His medications are safe to take because some stupid commie liberal fought to insure their safety and that they work as advertised.

All but $10 of his medications is paid for by his employer's medical plan because some liberal union workers fought their employers for paid medical insurance - now Joe gets it too. He prepares his morning breakfast, bacon and eggs. Joe's bacon is safe to eat because some girly-man liberal fought for laws to regulate the meat packing industry.

In the morning shower, Joe reaches for his shampoo. His bottle is properly labeled with each ingredient and its amount in the total contents because some crybaby liberal fought for his right to know what he was putting on his body and how much it contained. Joe dresses, then walks outside and takes a deep breath. The air he breathes is clean because some environmentalist wacko liberal fought for laws to stop industries from polluting our air. He walks to the subway station for his government-subsidized ride to work. It saves him considerable money in parking and transportation fees because some fancy-pants liberal fought for affordable public transportation, which gives everyone the opportunity to be a contributor.

Joe begins his work day. He has a good job with excellent pay, medical benefits, retirement, paid holidays and vacation because some lazy liberal union members fought and died for these working standards. Joe's employer pays these standards because Joe's employer doesn't want his employees to call the union. If Joe is hurt on the job or becomes unemployed, he'll get a worker compensation or unemployment check because some stupid liberal didn't think he should lose his home because of his temporary misfortune.

It's noontime and Joe needs to make a bank deposit so he can pay some bills. Joe's deposit is federally insured by the FSLIC because some godless liberal wanted to protect Joe's money from unscrupulous bankers who ruined the banking system before the Great Depression. Joe has to pay his Fannie Mae-underwritten mortgage and his below-market federal student loan because some elitist liberal decided that Joe and the government would be better off if he was educated and earned more money over his lifetime.

Joe is home from work. He plans to visit his father this evening at his farm home in the country. He gets in his car for the drive. His car is among the safest in the world because some America-hating liberal fought for car safety standards. He arrives at his boyhood home. His was the third generation to live in the house financed by Farmers' Home Administration because bankers didn't want to make rural loans. The house didn't have electricity until some big-government liberal (FDR) stuck his nose where it didn't belong and demanded rural electrification.

He is happy to see his father, who is now retired. His father lives on Social Security and a union pension because some wine-drinking, quiche-eating liberal made sure he could take care of himself so Joe wouldn't have to.

Joe gets back in his car for the ride home, and turns on a radio talk show. The radio host keeps saying that liberals are bad and conservatives are good. He doesn't mention that the beloved Republicans fought against every protection and benefit Joe enjoys throughout his day.

Joe agrees: "We don't need those big-government liberals ruining our lives! After all, I'm a self-made man who believes everyone should take care of himself, just like I have."

This item was sent to us by one of liberal subscribers, claiming he had written it. We don't know where he stole it, but thanks to Google, we did find the same story on dozens of different web sites.

at 9/25/2007 1:42 AM

Anonymous said...

Sorry to say bengal fans but this season is a wash already, three weeks in and we can throw in the towel. We have to many problems to fix at this point coaching,defense,special teams,ect,ect,ect. I could go forever but you get the point.

at 9/25/2007 12:38 PM

Anonymous said...

The season isnt over yet..after the buy we could easily go 9-3...and for the upcoming game on MNF all those going to the game including my self need to go CRAZY and be yellin our a** off all night and the Bengals to get all pumped which at the same time will get Brady all confused...we can do this just remember to bring your voices to the game!!!!!

WHO DEY!

at 9/25/2007 4:08 PM

Scott said...

It's the little things! In the last 16 games we have been 6-10. If you eliminate the Colts beating us by 18, we have only been outscored an average of 3.5 points a game. The little things make a HUGE difference. We get Ahmad Brooks back this week and continue to get starters back the next few weeks. If we can just get our head in the game, we can win a lot more than we lose.

at 9/25/2007 9:36 PM

Anonymous said...

I heard the Reds sent a letter to the Bengals.
Something to the effect.
"Thanks for being as bad as you are. You took the spotlight off us!"

at 9/26/2007 12:58 PM

Anonymous said...

This is the dumbest stat I have seen all season! Last I heard, the season ended for the Bengals in December 2006. That means that anything played in 2007 is part of the new 2007 season. Why do we need to hear about this? Has no one heard of starting fresh? The past is the past so just let it be. We need to concentrate on the here and now and what we can do to win football games this season!

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